Malik on Future Aspirations
Moazzam Malik discusses his hopes for the future and providing life chances to people around the world.
Ky Luu: This is a very difficult to field that you are working in and there's burnout. What do you want to achieve? Where do you see yourself five, ten years from now and what impact does Moazzam Malik want to make while you are still making a difference?
Moazzam Malik: That is a good and difficult question to ask. I have no idea where I'll be in five or ten years time to be honest. What do I want to achieve? I want to make an impact in the real world. What gets me out of bed every day isn't being a civil servant in a government department winning an argument in White Hall or treading the corridors of authority in New York or Geneva. But rather it's how we translate what we do into the real world. All those things are important. You know I talked about politics. A lot of the time this boils down to conversations around a table in London or New York or Washington or Rome or Delhi or wherever. So you know, the bureaucracy, the process, the policy process, the process by which decisions are made is important. Hugely important. And sometimes what you can achieve is incremental. It’s step-by-step. And on any one day what you achieve step-by-step may not look great and you know you may not go home saying “Great, we won today.” It isn’t like that. The real world isn’t like that. But if you have a clear sense of what you're trying to achieve and are able to make sense of how to break down bureaucracies and policy processes and funding decisions in order to align them towards that objective then you can make the system work. And so, what do I want to achieve? I want to achieve a better future for poor people around the world. I want the people who live in Darfur, and Somalia and in Nepal and in Pakistan and in Afghanistan to have good life chances. We talked in the start of this conversation about the personal terms on which I see it. And on one level it may be naïve and on one level it may be idealistic. But deep down, deep here, I want kids around the world to have the prospects my children have. It may not be possible in my lifetime. It may not even be possible in many generations time. And fundamentally, in my working life, if I can go even half a step towards that then for me that’s a working life well-spent.